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Director Steven Soderbergh has opened up further about the Star Wars movie he never made — a sequel to 2019’s Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker that would have starred Adam Driver as a resurrected (and redeemed) Kylo Ren.

The project, which went by the title Star Wars: The Hunt for Ben Solo, was planned as a collaboration between Soderbergh, Driver, Soderbergh’s Logan Lucky collaborator Rebecca Blunt, and screenwriter Scott Z. Burns; it went through the process at Lucasfilm before being cancelled by upper management at the Walt Disney Company; Driver had called it “one of the coolest [expletive] scripts I had ever been a part of.”

In a new interview, Soderbergh remained openly confused about the entire experience, suggesting that — in his eyes, at least — everything was further along than some might have expected.

“We were all frustrated,” the Ocean’s Eleven director said in reference to former Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy expressing her own frustrations with Disney’s decision not to move forward with the project. “You know, that was two and a half years of free work for me and Adam and Rebecca Blunt. When Adam and I discussed him talking about it publicly, I said, ‘Look, do not editorialize or speculate about the why. Just say what happened, because all we know is what happened.’ The stated reason was ‘We don’t think Ben Solo could be alive.’ And that was all we were told. And so there’s nothing to do about it, you know, except move on.”

A particular place of frustration for Soderbergh was, he continued, “I’d kind of made the movie in my head, and just felt bad that nobody else was going to get to see it. I thought the conversation was strictly going to be a practical one — where they go, what is this going to cost? And I had a really good answer for that. But it never even got to that point. It’s insane. We’re all very disappointed.”

The next Star Wars movie to reach theaters will be Star Wars: The Mandalorian and Grogu, released May 22.

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