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Marvel's Punisher skull took on a meaning creator Gerry Conway never wanted it to. So in 2020, he fought back

How the late Gerry Conway confronted the misguided legacy of his Punisher character for Marvel, and its pull between brutality and justice

In 2022, Gerry Conway recounted meeting someone with "the Blue Lives Punisher logo — you know, the blue stripe variation on it" tattooed on their arm. "And then above it," he said, "They had tattooed 'I don’t read,' and then below it, 'Punisher comics.' And I thought, yep."

Conway's April 2026 passing has left a giant hole in the comic book community, and in looking back at his legacy, it's hard not to see his relationship with Frank Castle - who he co-created with John Romita Sr. and Ross Andru in 1974 - as less than triumphant. For his entire life, Conway held that the Punisher was not created to be emulated, and that the adoption of his logo by members of the military, police, and overarching alt-right movement signaled both a deep misunderstanding of the character and a moral failing of those institutions.

I'm not here to argue that he got any of that wrong. Even if he wasn't the guy who, you know, helped created the goddamn character, I'd take a look at today's headlines and be pretty convinced of his position. But what I am here to tell you is this - that as we remember Gerry, we should not only recall his critiques of the deeply confused wannabes that wear the Punisher's symbol - we should remember the time Gerry fought back.

That moment was in part the subject of a 2022 episode of the 99% Invisible podcast, which is where I got the opening quote to this article. The show, which is a psychological deep-dive into the ways design affects our lives and culture, decided to dedicate an entire episode to the Punisher skull logo, its usages by conservative groups, and of course, the comic book history that led Conway & Co to creating it.

To truncate the (very listenable) episode, Conway speaks about making the Vietnam War an important part of Frank's past, which he calls the "fundamental social crime that we [his generation] felt that the government was perpetuating," and the bitter irony that now members of the government are putting the Punisher skull on their squad cars and humvees. And after years of witnessing them do so, Conway found a perfect opportunity to counter their misusage, and in doing so, support a movement that those tough-guy claimants couldn't stand:

Black Lives Matter.

In 2020, as the nation saw a tide of protests inspired by the murder of George Floyd, Gerry took a stand in a way that only a comics legend could. That was the "BLM Skulls for Justice campaign," in which the seminal Marvel and DC writer tried to reclaim the logo "potentially as a symbol for justice rather than for oppression. That, while The Punisher was a very problematic hero, he was trying to fight on the side of right."

The BLM Skulls for Justice campaign gave artists of color - Demonte Price, Don Nguyen, Wess Hancock, and Sam Ines, to be specific - the opportunity to rework the skull logo into a symbol that stood against the alt-right, not bolstered it. By the end of the campaign, a number of redesigned skulls adorned merch like t-shirts and hats, and perhaps most importantly, raised $75K for the LA chapter of BLM. Now let me ask you this, reader - does that mean that Conway was successful? 

That's up to the individuals who come across this article to decide, and for my part, I think the answer is somewhere in the vicinity of: "not for long." The 'I don't read Punisher comics' guy is still doing his thing, most likely, and the logo is still being used in some outrageously toxic places (for example, as a personal motif of the current FBI drinker - sorry, director). But here's why I say this story matters. When Gerry Conway had the opportunity to stay silent about an important issue, he didn't. Whether or not the proverbial needle was able to move regarding the Punisher skull, he pushed. Listen to Gerry put the idea into his own words as he wrapped up that podcast interview.

"I’ve heard one or two people on Twitter," Gerry told his interviewers, "Saying that there’s literally no way that the Punisher logo can ever be anything except a symbol of oppression. I think that’s just, you know, no, come on. But even if that were the case, sticking your finger in the eye of the bad guys is always a good deal. And putting out sweatshirts that had the BLM logo with The Punisher logo is a, you know, it’s a pretty hefty 'F- you' to people who deserve to have an 'F- you.'"

Maybe the Punisher's skull being a symbol of something decent, or at least, a symbol not to be idolized, is a battle we've lost. Symbols can go that way. But as one of the greatest Marvel Comics creators seems to indicate here, maybe we can trade that skull for a middle finger, and maybe do just as well without it.


 

Grant DeArmitt

Grant DeArmitt: Grant DeArmitt (he/him) likes horror, comics, and the unholy union of the two. In the past, and despite their better judgment, he has written for Nightmare on Film Street and Newsarama. He lives in Brooklyn with his partner, Kingsley, and corgi, Legs.

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